What's wrong with the end?

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What do ya think of the end of MI-2?

Loved it, I like anticlimax.
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Liked it.
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Not bad.
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Could have been better.
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Didn't like it.
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Is this all?
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AAAAAAAAAAAh, NO, NO, IT CAN'T BE! o80
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Postby Ryback » Fri Dec 12, 2003 8:10 pm

Links wrote:The making of MI3 had to change all the base story, from now on if you want to know something on how the story "really" goes, you have to ask the people that are currently working on the script (in MI4 they were Ryan Danz, Richard Sun, Karen Petersen and David Graham McDermott).


Just a comment on this part of your post, the people you mentioned above didn't write the script, they did the scripting. Which is different: scripting is taking the various actions that have been laid out for Guybrush (in the script) and programming them into the game. These guys are just coders. Sean and Mike are still the ones responsible for the game script.
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Postby Links » Sat Dec 13, 2003 7:13 pm

:oops: :lol:

D**n the translators, that's what happens when you take a quick look into a translated manual and don't even think twice before opening your mouth (or hitting the keys :D ).

It was an honest mistake, the spanish translators wrote that they were the ones that made the "guión", and that IS the spanish word for script but not for a programing script, but for a PLOT only. That and my lack of MI-fannish knowledge :wink:

Sorry for that and let's move on... :)
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Postby Jojo Junior » Fri May 28, 2004 10:58 am

It's ok but there's something missing...
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Postby guybrush threepwood » Fri May 28, 2004 11:00 am

i waited so long to find out what happened. so unfulfilling was the end. i was so disheartened, i felt all my work was for nothing. i was upset. i really needed a hug.
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Postby Jojoboy » Tue Jun 01, 2004 8:56 pm

MI2 in my opinion had one particular theme going and that was the Cajun style. The music involved (including Largo Lagrande's theme, The Mardi Gras festival on Booty) has the jazzy tune in New Orleans culture. There were swamps on Scabb as well as crypts, there was the ZOMBIE pirate Le Chuck, and the dominant use of voodoo dolls. The ending is anticlimatic during the entire underground tunnels, until Elaine says her line "I hope Guybrush isn't under some spell." Or something to that effect. There are barely any, if there are any valid referrences in SMI linking it to an amusement park, given the Pirates of the Caribean ride inspiration.
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Postby plunderbunny481 » Wed Jun 02, 2004 5:26 pm

guybrush threepwood wrote: i really needed a hug.

me too.
*hug*
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Postby Cophi » Fri Jun 04, 2004 2:20 am

I played CMI before MI2, so I was expecting to find some sort of explanation as to how Guybrush was in a bumper car at the start of CMI.

So I get to the end of LCR. HUH?!?!? Now, on its own, I think it was a pretty good ending, leaving you to interpret it how you wished, but taken in conjunction with CMI, I was just left scratching my head.
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Postby molgrum » Sat Jun 26, 2004 2:01 pm

Consider these things before you say that it was all a childhood fantasy:

    All the things that exist in this world, all the dialogs that are sometimes so complicated you feel really stupid (remember when Toothrot asks about the tree that falls when nobody is around to hear it?) may take more than an eight-year old to make up, imho.
    When Guybrush walks into the carnival (of the damned) at the end as a child, he says something like "what's going on here?". That's something you would say if you felt something isn't right here.
    Chuckie makes evil eyes when walking, very high-class hint that this isn't a normal family.
    Don't forget Elaine that wonders what takes so long and hopes that LeChuck didn't put an evil spell on Guybrush!
I think that it was a spell cast on Guybrush by LeChuck, which he does once again in MI3. Guybrush then managed to break the spell and escape in a bumper car, also in MI3 he breaks the spell but there you have to do it yourself. Exactly when the spell is cast is a mystery I think, it may have been when LeChuck sends Guybrush to the dimension of infinite pain, because that's the only part when something magically really happens to Guybrush. Then in the other world it's also a question if it's LeChuck that plays Chuckie or if it's one of LeChucks companions, because in MI3 LeChuck asks Guybrush how he escaped from his carnival of the damned so obviously he hasn't had any oversight of Guybrush.
Then there's the ticket, I don't really remember if the ticket shows up before or after LeChuck sends Guybrush away, but either way the treasure is some sort of ride ticket and correct me if I'm wrong but didn't LeChuck say that Big Whoop is a gate to hell? Maybe it's a ride on his carnival that requires that ticket.
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Postby Baberlp » Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:32 am

molgrum wrote:
    All the things that exist in this world, all the dialogs that are sometimes so complicated you feel really stupid (remember when Toothrot asks about the tree that falls when nobody is around to hear it?) may take more than an eight-year old to make up, imho.
    When Guybrush walks into the carnival (of the damned) at the end as a child, he says something like "what's going on here?". That's something you would say if you felt something isn't right here.
    Chuckie makes evil eyes when walking, very high-class hint that this isn't a normal family.
    Don't forget Elaine that wonders what takes so long and hopes that LeChuck didn't put an evil spell on Guybrush!

I agree. If Guybrush was a little kid dreaming of being a pirate, wouldn't he imagine himself being a bit..mightier (if that's a word)? Do you get what I mean? If a kid nowadays is going to imagine himself being a superhero, he'll be strong and fearless. Plus, why would a little boy imagine himself falling in love with someone. I think being in love isthe last thing most 5-10 year old boys want to do. They'd just imagine themselves full of adventure and strong, or maybe with the girls falling at their feet, not the other way around (as in, Guybrush loves Elaine, but she messes him around a lot, hits him etc.). That's just my theory.
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Postby kousha » Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:29 pm

Well, I think the whole idea of Brother thing is wrong. I mean why that? I just did not make any sence.
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Postby Thanos6 » Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:21 pm

As a lead-in to CMI, as part of the continuing Monkey Island saga, it's great.

In the context of the game, I don't care for it. I hate endings that try to suggest "it was all a dream." It's a copout (unless Freddy Krueger's involved).
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Postby Guybrush_T » Sun Apr 24, 2005 8:57 pm

The end is absolutelly awful.. terrible. AND I DO NOT ACCEPT THE IDEA OF THEME PARK AND ALL THESE ADVENTURES' BEING JUST AN IMAGINATION OF A LITTLE BOY name guybrush.. This is the most rubbish end for such a brilliant adventure. If this is true, then this whole idea of them park came out in MI2. In that case I could only say, it would be better if MI stays as "secret of MI" and no sequals. they are just spoilers.

And as I know this end does not belong to Ron Gilbert. He may have inspired from Theme Park's pirates of the caribbean maybe but I m sure he could make a better ending to this game. Just because this game inspired from theme park doesnt mean that the whole adventure was a lie and just and imagination of a boy. That theory sucks!!!!! whoever wrote!!!
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Postby Bareck » Mon May 09, 2005 12:31 pm

anyone notice something, That when Gybrush got to the fortress it was obvious that Lechuck intended to kill him by the acid pit.

BUT right in the beginning of the game when Lechuck was resurected he asked the vodoo guy for a very special doll.... hmm..... makes you think
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Postby molotovtaco » Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:16 pm

Im guessing BigWhoop brought BrushGuy into another dimension. That's why when he was supposed to be at Dinky Island, he was actually at Melee Island (when you went up the elevator). When he was riding the bumper cars in his childhood form, Chuck destroyed the underground passage and Brush was lucky to escape. Haha.
That was why he was in the bumper car thingy at the start of the third game.
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Postby Captain Raptor » Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:44 pm

Yeah, but (err... I kinda liked the ending. And Guybrush and LeChuck being bros. makes the story more powerful, methinks.)
And when Chuckie does that red eye thing at the end (I liked that) it shows you that he's doing some voodoo on Guybrush. Normal kids eyes dont glow *sarcastically*( yes, normal children's eyes glow when you anger their inner voodoo)
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